44th Parliament, 1st session
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44e Législature, 1re session
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Votes and Proceedings |
Procès-verbaux |
No. 3 |
Nº 3 |
Wednesday
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Mercredi
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Hon. Donna Skelly
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L'hon. Donna Skelly |
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 16, 2025 | MERCREDI 16 AVRIL 2025 |
9:00 A.M.Prayers | 9 HPrières |
The Speaker informed the House that the Clerk had laid upon the Table the Roll of Members elected at the General Election of 2025 (Sessional Paper No. 7i) (Tabled April 10, 2025). |
The Speaker informed the House that Marit Stiles, Member for the Electoral District of Davenport, was recognized as Leader of His Majesty's Loyal Opposition. |
The Speaker informed the House, | La Présidente a informé l’Assemblée, |
That the following documents were tabled since the last sitting of the House: | Que depuis la dernière séance les documents suivants ont été déposés : |
Ontario School Boards: School Building Condition, Student Capacity and Capital Budgeting from the Office of the Financial Accountability Officer of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 720) (Tabled December 17, 2024) [43rd Parliament, 1st Session]. | Les conseils scolaires de l’Ontario : État des bâtiments scolaires, capacité d’accueil des élèves et budgétisation des immobilisations du Bureau de la responsabilité financière de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire no 720) (Déposé le 17 décembre 2024) [43e législature, 1re session]. |
ServiceOntario Relocations: Financial Analysis of the Agreement with Staples Canada from the Office of the Financial Accountability Officer of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 736) (Tabled January 15, 2025) [43rd Parliament, 1st Session]. | Déménagement de centres ServiceOntario : Analyse financière de l’entente avec Staples Canada du Bureau de la responsabilité financière de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire no 736) (Déposé le 15 janvier 2025) [43e législature, 1re session]. |
Report concerning the Honourable Kinga Surma, Minister of Infrastructure and Member of Provincial Parliament for Etobicoke Centre from the Office of the Integrity Commissioner of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 738) (Tabled January 16, 2025) [43rd Parliament, 1st Session]. | Rapport concernant l'honorable Kinga Surma, ministre de l’Infrastructure et députée d’Etobicoke-Centre du Bureau du commissaire à l'intégrité l'Ontario (Document parlementaire no 738) (Déposé le 16 janvier 2025) [43e législature, 1re session]. |
The Financial Impact of Expanding the Beverage Alcohol Marketplace in Ontario from the Office of the Financial Accountability Officer of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 744) (Tabled January 27, 2025) [43rd Parliament, 1st Session]. | Incidence financière de l’élargissement du marché des boissons alcoolisées en Ontario du Bureau de la responsabilité financière de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire no 744) (Déposé le 27 janvier 2025) [43e législature, 1re session]. |
Special Report on the Community-Based Child and Youth Mental Health Program from the Office of the Auditor General of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 1i) (Tabled March 31, 2025). | Rapport spécial sur les Programmes communautaires de santé mentale pour les enfants et les jeunes de la Bureau de la vérificatrice générale de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire n° 1i) (Déposé le 31 mars 2025). |
Special Report on the Safety of Non-Municipal Drinking Water from the Office of the Auditor General of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 2i) (Tabled March 31, 2025). | Rapport spécial sur la Salubrité des réseaux d'eau potable non municipaux de la Bureau de la vérificatrice générale de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire n° 2i) (Déposé le 31 mars 2025). |
Government Spending Trends: 1990 to 2023 from the Office of the Financial Accountability Officer of Ontario (Sessional Paper No. 5i) (Tabled April 9, 2025). | Tendances des dépenses du gouvernement : 1990 à 2023 du Bureau de la responsabilité financière de l’Ontario (Document parlementaire no 5i) (Déposé le 9 avril 2025). |
Orders of the Day | Ordres du jour |
Steve Clark moved, seconded by Anthony Leardi, | Steve Clark a proposé, appuyé par Anthony Leardi, |
That an humble Address be presented to Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor as follows: |
“To the Honourable Edith Dumont, Lieutenant Governor of Ontario: |
We, His Majesty’s most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Legislative Assembly of the Province of Ontario, now assembled, beg leave to thank Your Honour for the gracious speech Your Honour has been pleased to address to us at the opening of the present Session.” |
Debate arose and after some time, | Il s’élève un débat et après quelque temps, |
Chandra Pasma moved adjournment of the debate. | Chandra Pasma a proposé l’ajournement du débat. |
Carried. | Adoptée. |
At 10:07 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 9(e), the Deputy Government House Leader (Anthony Leardi) indicated that no further business would be called and therefore the House recessed. | À 10 h 07, conformément à l’article 9 e) du Règlement, le leader parlementaire adjoint du gouvernement (Anthony Leardi) a indiqué qu’aucune autre affaire ne serait à l’ordre du jour et par conséquent, l’Assemblée suspendait ses travaux. |
10:15 A.M. | 10 H 15 |
The Speaker addressed the House: | La Présidente s’adresse à l’Assemblée : |
Before we begin introductions, I would like to take a moment to draw the attention of the House to Standing Order 34, which provides a time limit of five minutes for the Introduction of Visitors proceeding. I intend to start this new Session of Parliament by strictly observing this rule and ask all Members to be aware that I will be ending the proceeding at the five-minute mark. Should Members attempt to introduce additional visitors by raising points of order, I will inform them that this is also out of order in accordance with Standing Order 34. I ask all Members to please be mindful that the five minutes allotted to the proceeding is to be shared amongst all Members of this House. Fortunately, any Member who is not able to introduce their guests in the morning will have another opportunity to do so during the time for Introduction of Visitors in the Afternoon Routine. |
The Speaker addressed the House: | La Présidente s’adresse à l’Assemblée : |
I would like to address the House regarding the participation of the independent Members. While this current Legislature marks a return to a configuration consisting of three recognized parties, it nonetheless has amongst its membership two MPPs elected as candidates of the Green Party of Ontario, and one MPP elected without party affiliation. None of these Members belong to recognized parties, defined by Standing Order 3 as a party with a membership consisting of at least 10% of the total seats in the House, which is currently 12 seats. Accordingly, these MPPs are independent Members for procedural purposes. The Standing Orders provide the Speaker the discretion to permit independent Members to participate in certain proceedings, notably Question Period, Members’ Statements, and during certain debates, pursuant to Standing Orders 35(g), 33(c) and 24(d) respectively. To exercise this discretion, I aim to ensure that each individual independent Member would have the same opportunities for participation as any other individual Member of the Legislature if recognized party status were not a factor. I wish to now explain to the House how I have chosen to facilitate the independent Members’ participation in these proceedings. In determining how best to accommodate the three independent Members, I have drawn on the precedents of the 42nd and 43rd Parliaments, which both included large groups of independent Members. The approaches taken in these two previous Parliaments are described in the Journals for July 16, 2018 (at pages 18 to 19), July 19, 2018 (at pages 26 to 28), and August 10, 2022 (at pages 31 to 33). The first substantive business before the House is the debate on the Address in Reply to the Speech from the Throne, or Throne Speech debate, to which Standing Order 44(a) allocates a total of 12 hours. Using the same mathematical approach that was taken in the 43rd Parliament, in a 12-hour debate, each of the 123 individual Members of this Legislature could expect to be allotted approximately six minutes of speaking time. Accordingly, the three independent Members will each be granted one six-minute allotment of speaking time for this particular debate. I will take a similar approach to debates on Second and Third Reading of Government bills and on substantive Government motions. The allotment of speaking time for individual Members in the previous two Parliaments was calculated based on the assumption that a typical debate is at least six and a half hours long, as that is the point at which the Government can allocate time to the remaining stages of the debate, pursuant to Standing Order 50. Members can therefore reasonably expect that debates on Second Reading of Government bills and on substantive motions will last for at least 6.5 hours, which breaks down to about three minutes of speaking time per individual Member. The three independent Members will thus be allotted three minutes for all debates on Second and Third Reading of Government bills and on substantive Government motions. As was the case in the two preceding Parliaments, this time may be banked. If the Members do not wish to participate in a certain debate, their three-minute allotments will be recorded in a time bank which they may draw on in future debates. This will allow them to make longer speeches in debates that may be of greater importance to them. Over time, this will ensure that these Members have approximately the same opportunities to participate in debates as any other individual Member. I have taken a similar approach to determining the allotments for Question Period and Members’ Statements. For these two proceedings, I have calculated the frequency with which each individual eligible Member can expect to participate by either making a statement or asking a question. I have also considered the best way to incorporate the participation of the independent Members into the usual routines of the House in a way that will be predictable to anticipate and straightforward for the Chair to facilitate. During Question Period, I am prepared to recognize each independent Member once per 8-day period. When recognized, an independent Member will have the opportunity to ask one question and one supplementary. Similarly, each independent Member will be able to make a Member’s statement once per 8-day period. Given that the House will not be sitting next week as per Standing Order 7(b)(ii), nor on Monday, April 28, 2025 due to the federal election as per Standing Order 9(i), we will begin this cycle on Tuesday, April 29, 2025 with questions and statements from independent Members on the first Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday of the 8-day period. I believe that following a repeating cycle that allows for the recognition of one independent Member during Question Period and during Members’ Statements on those three consecutive days, followed by a gap of one sitting week, is a reasonable and fair way to respect and ensure the participation of the independent Members of this House. This provides a consistent and predictable flow to both of the daily Members’ Statements and Question Period proceedings, and is also suitably proportional to the independents’ membership in the House, neither favouring nor penalizing when it comes to the overall opportunities for participation. I would like to remind the three independent Members that they are required to inform the Chair in advance when they intend to participate in any of the proceedings I have addressed today. While I have exercised the discretion accorded to me by the Standing Orders to arrange the participation of the independent Members in this way, I would like to remind the House that it is the master of its own proceedings. If, at any time, the House might have any recommendations regarding the participation of the independent Members, I would welcome that direction going forward. I thank you all for your attention to this matter. |
The House recessed at 11:46 a.m. | À 11 h 46, l’Assemblée a suspendu la séance. |
1:00 P.M. | 13 H |
The Speaker informed the House: | La Présidente a informé l’Assemblée : |
That in accordance with section 87 of the Legislative Assembly Act, the names of the following persons appointed to serve on the Board of Internal Economy have been communicated to me as Chair: |
The Honourable Paul Calandra, MPP, continues as the Commissioner appointed by the Lieutenant Governor in Council from among the members of the Executive Council; |
Steve Clark, MPP, is appointed by the caucus of the Government (Sessional Paper No. 7); |
John Vanthof, MPP, continues as the Commissioner appointed by the caucus of the Official Opposition; and |
John Fraser, MPP, is appointed by the caucus of the Third Party (Sessional Paper No. 6i) (Tabled April 9, 2025). |
The names of the following persons appointed respectively to serve as alternates on the Board of Internal Economy have also been communicated to me as Chair: |
The Honourable Andrea Khanjin, MPP, continues to serve as the Commissioner appointed by the Lieutenant Governor in Council from among the members of the Executive Council; |
Anthony Leardi, MPP, is appointed by the caucus of the Government (Sessional Paper No. 7); |
Chandra Pasma, MPP, is appointed by the caucus of the Official Opposition (Sessional Paper No. 8); and |
Lucille Collard, MPP, is appointed by the caucus of the Third Party (Sessional Paper No. 9). |
Introduction of Government Bills | Dépôt de projets de loi émanant du gouvernement |
The following Bill was introduced and read the first time: | Le projet de loi suivant est présenté et lu une première fois : |
Bill 2, An Act to enact the Buy Ontario, Buy Canadian Day Act, 2025 and the Ontario Free Trade and Mobility Act, 2025 and to amend various other Acts. Hon. Victor Fedeli (Minister of Economic Development, Job Creation and Trade). | Projet de loi 2, Loi édictant la Loi de 2025 sur le Jour « Achetons ontarien, achetons canadien » et la Loi ontarienne de 2025 sur le libre-échange et la mobilité et modifiant diverses autres lois. L'hon. Victor Fedeli (Ministre du Développement économique, de la Création d’emplois et du Commerce). |
Introduction of Bills | Dépôt de projets de loi |
The following Bills were introduced and read the first time: | Les projets de loi suivants sont présentés et lus une première fois : |
Bill 3, An Act to amend the Gift of Life Act in order to recognize organ and tissue donors. Ted Hsu; Stephen Blais; John Fraser; Adil Shamji. | Projet de loi 3, Loi pour modifier la Loi sur le don de vie afin de souligner la contribution des donneurs d’organes et de tissus. Ted Hsu; Stephen Blais; John Fraser; Adil Shamji. |
Bill 4, An Act to amend various statutes with respect to the removal and use of tissue from a human body for therapeutic purposes, medical education or scientific research. France Gélinas. | Projet de loi 4, Loi visant à modifier diverses lois en ce qui concerne le prélèvement et l’utilisation de tissus d’un corps humain à des fins thérapeutiques, pour l’enseignement de la médecine ou pour la recherche scientifique. France Gélinas. |
Motions | Motions |
With unanimous consent, | Avec le consentement unanime, |
Ordered, That, in accordance with subsections 23(2) and 23.1(2) of the Members’ Integrity Act, 1994, S.O. 1994, Chapter 38, Cathryn Motherwell be appointed Integrity Commissioner of Ontario for a term of five years, commencing on April 16, 2025. |
Petitions | Pétitions | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Orders of the Day | Ordres du jour |
Motion for an Address in Reply to the Speech of Her Honour the Lieutenant Governor at the Opening of the Session. | Motion portant l'Adresse en réponse au discours prononcé par Son Honneur la lieutenante-gouverneure à l'ouverture de la session. |
Debate resumed and after some time, | Le débat a repris et après quelque temps, |
Ted Hsu moved adjournment of the debate. | Ted Hsu a proposé l’ajournement du débat. |
Carried. | Adoptée. |
With unanimous consent to move a motion without notice, | Avec le consentement unanime de proposé une motion sans préavis, |
On motion by Anthony Leardi, | Sur la motion de Anthony Leardi, |
Ordered, |
That Effie J. Triantafilopoulos, Member for the Electoral District of Oakville North—Burlington, be appointed Deputy Speaker and Chair of the Committee of the Whole House; |
That Jennifer K. French, Member for the Electoral District of Oshawa, be appointed First Deputy Chair of the Committee of the Whole House; |
That Ric Bresee, Member for the Electoral District of Hastings—Lennox and Addington, be appointed Second Deputy Chair of the Committee of the Whole House; and |
That Andrea Hazell, Member for the Electoral District of Scarborough—Guildwood, be appointed Third Deputy Chair of the Committee of the Whole House. |
At 5:50 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 9(e), Deputy Government House Leader (Anthony Leardi) indicated that no further business would be called and therefore the House adjourned. | À 17 h 50, conformément à l’article 9 e) du Règlement, le leader parlementaire adjointe du gouvernement (Anthony Leardi) a indiqué qu’aucune autre affaire ne serait à l’ordre du jour et par conséquent, l’Assemblée a ajourné ses travaux. |
Petitions Tabled Pursuant to Standing Order 42(a) | Pétitions déposées conformément à l'article 42 a) du règlement | ||||||
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Sessional Papers Presented Pursuant to Standing Order 43 | Documents Parlementaires déposés conformément à l'article 43 du règlement | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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